Eating Local: Farmers' Markets for Philly Mamas

According to this week’s #WCW, Registered Dietitian Dalina Soto, buying local produce is the healthiest choice for mamas and their families because the food has to travel less and can be picked at peak ripeness, resulting in more nutrients and better tasting fruits and veggies! In keeping with Dalina’s advice, we decided to research Philadelphia’s best places to shop local produce and more! Thanks to Uwishunu, The Food Trust and, here is what we found:

        Photo courtesy of The Food Trust on Instagram

        Photo courtesy of The Food Trust on Instagram

Reading Terminal Market: located at 1201 Arch Street, Reading terminal is open seven days a week and has more local options than one could imagine, including produce, meats and baked goods. Given that it is open daily and that it is so easy to get to—just a short walk through Jefferson station off the train lines—we think it’s worth the stop.

Rittenhouse Square Farmers’ Market: Open Tuesdays and year-round on Saturdays and located at 18th and Walnut, the Rittenhouse farmers' market may not be open every day, but is worth the wait! With fresh, often organic, produce, locally made hummus and other artisanal food offerings, the Rittenhouse farmers' market is not one to miss!

Clark Park Farmers’ Market: Located at 43rd and Baltimore Avenue, and open Thursdays and year-round on Saturdays, the Clark Park farmers’ market is a great West Philly stop for local produce for your family! Even better, different vendors are present for the Thursday and Saturday markets, so shoppers get twice the variety of vendors at one location!

Just some of the local foods available at these Philadelphia farmers' markets!  Photos courtesy of The Food Trust on Instagram

Just some of the local foods available at these Philadelphia farmers' markets!  Photos courtesy of The Food Trust on Instagram

Headhouse Farmers' Market: Located at 2nd and Lombard, the Headhouse Farmers’ Market is located in Society Hill and is one of The Food Trust’s largest markets in Philadelphia. Visit this farmers’ market not only for fresh produce, but also for prepared foods and to grab a bite at one of the food trucks in attendance!

Dilworth Park: Conveniently taking place during Wednesday lunch hours (10-2), this farmer’s market is located at Broad and Market and is the ideal lunch break detour to stock up on local produce mid-week! This summer is the Dilworth Farmers’ market’s first season, so be sure to check it out!

Fitler Square Farmer’s Market: Located at 23rd and Pine and taking place year-round on Saturdays, the Fitler Square Market sells not only local produce, but other locally-made goods including Philly Fair Trade Roasters Coffee, PB & Jams nut butters and meat and dairy from Apple Tree Goat Dairy. Some of their produce offerings are even grown hydroponically at Brogue Hydroponics!

Have any other favorite Philadelphia-area farmers' markets?
Tell us about them in the comments below!


Postpartum Rest: Historically, Globally and in America Today

A History of Postpartum Rest in America

The book Lying In: A History of Childbirth in America, written by Richard and Dorothy Wertz, describes how the closing of the American frontier coincided with the end of a “lying in” period for new American mothers. The “lying in” period served as a time of postpartum rest for new moms, an offshoot of “social childbirth, with its volunteer woman-to-woman help.” Lee Mcclenon, a trained doula, notes that “birth used to be much more of a communal experience and women [in their twenties] would have witnessed many births and the childcare experience.” In an article written for, author Hillary Brenhouse qualifies that as private births became the new norm, “the “lie-in” wasn’t adapted or modified. And it certainly wasn’t replaced with anything.”

The end of a culturally accepted postpartum rest period was essentially became a refusal to acknowledge “that the woman needs relief more at this time than at any other—especially if she has a career to return to—and that it takes weeks, sometimes months, to properly heal from childbirth.” The absence of a postpartum period of rest has had far-reaching negative affects on American mothers today. Failing to provide American women with an adequate period of postpartum rest is failing to acknowledge “that overexertion after labor could lead to depression, infection, increased uterine bleeding, or prolapse.” In her article, Brenhouse also draws attention to the commonplace attitude of American mothers immediately following childbirth today, that “if they’re not up and functioning, they feel like there’s something wrong with them.”

Global Postpartum Traditions

Many countries and cultures still implement a period of postpartum rest for new mothers today. From the Latin American “cuarentena” to the Chinese tradition of “doing the month,” many cultures take advantage of a period of around 40 days where women rest, heal and abstain from activities that may prevent them from healing completely. According to an article written for, the Latin American “cuarentena” even has biblical roots (a passage in Leviticus requires a woman to have a 40-day purification period following childbirth), though today the practice “has been widely seen as a sign of motherhood's high status in Latin American countries.” The Chinese tradition of “doing a month” also has spiritual roots, as childbirth is traditionally seen as disruptive to the yin-yang balance in the body, which can be restored by eating specific foods in this postpartum period. Many cultures’ postpartum practices also focus on keeping mothers warm through food and drink, and also emotionally warm (by avoiding anger, for example), as described in an interview with Claudia Kolker, author of The Immigrant Advantage.

According to Brenhouse, other western nations require longer hospital stays, like in France, or regular postpartum visits from nurses, like in the Netherlands. While some of the rituals of different cultures’ postpartum periods are based more in tradition than in health benefits, Brenhouse notes in her article that the mere existence of a “culturally accepted postpartum period sends a powerful message that’s not being sent in this country.” Similarly, in the article written for by Rebecca Tuhus-Dubrow, “Americans who hear about the customs seem to be most envious of the support women receive.”


Postpartum Rest in America Today

While America no longer maintains a tradition of women taking a period of official postpartum rest, there are resources available to American women that can help make up for their deficit of postpartum support. Care providers including baby nurses, postpartum doulas, lactation consultants and sleep consultants can help educate new mothers and ease the everyday tasks of new motherhood that may be overwhelming, taking on roles similar to those of extended family in other cultures. And while many of these services still focus heavily on the well-being of the baby, certified postpartum doula, Lee Mcclenon, defines a postpartum doula as “primarily focused on the woman who just gave birth and looking out for her experience.” Mcclenon also notes, “We’re of a generation where a lot of women move away from their family and career-oriented women are jet-setting all over the county. Relying on a postpartum doula for some of the support that family may usually provide can be really beneficial.”

Mama Said believes in the importance of supporting mothers, especially in the postpartum period. Visit the Partner Providers page on our website to get connected with service providers for new and expecting mothers, including doulas, nurses, sleep and lactation consultants.





Summertime Wellness for Mamas and Mamas-to-be!

After scanning the web for the best summer health and wellness advice, we've compiled a list of the most popular and user-friendly tips to keep mamas and their families healthy and happy this summer! Check out what we have to say and tell us about your favorite wellness tips and tricks in the comments below!

Keep the Sun’s Rays at Bay

While sunscreen is always a summer must-have, this season take advantage of some additional, natural ways to protect yourself from the sun!  According to, different foods and vitamins can help increase your sun tolerance from the inside out! While some suggestions are a little more of a commitment (for example,  taking vitamin D3 and Fermented Cod Liver Oil), simply eating foods high in Omega 3s, like fish, leafy greens and highly saturated fats (like coconut oil and dairy fats) can also serve as a natural base of sun protection.

While sun protection is key for all mamas and their families, Mamas-to-be should take extra precautions when it comes to sun exposure according to Studies have suggested that overexposure to the sun’s UV rays can result in “folic acid degradation," which can be harmful to a developing baby.


Sunglasses aren't just for mamas! Wearing shades from a young age can reduce eye problems in the future.

Sunglasses aren't just for mamas! Wearing shades from a young age can reduce eye problems in the future.

Embrace the Shades

In addition to the built-in cool factor, sunglasses also protect your eyes from a myriad of potential problems. According to, sunglasses protect not only your eyes themselves, but also the skin around them, which has been found to contain up to 10% of all skin cancer cases. As for your actual eyes, wearing sunglasses that block UV rays can help prevent cataracts and other eye disorders including macular degeneration. And while most people don’t know this, failure to wear sunglasses can also cause Photokeratitis, or sunburn of the eye.

Sunglasses are most commonly a must-have for mamas, but they should be for kids, too! Wearing sunglasses early in life can help stave off eye problems later on, according to


Seasonal fruits like watermelons, berries and leafy greens contain many of the building blocks for a healthy summer diet, and they're oh so pretty!

Seasonal fruits like watermelons, berries and leafy greens contain many of the building blocks for a healthy summer diet, and they're oh so pretty!

Eat for the Season

The summer brings with it so many fresh fruits and veggies that add color and important vitamins to your diets, especially for mamas to be! According to, in the summer, seasonal fruits and vegetables including watermelon, strawberries, peas, broccoli and dark leafy greens like kale and spinach contain many of the right nutrients and protein essential for a healthy diet and healthy pregnancy. also notes that summer berries “prevent damage to tissues and reduce the risks of age-related illnesses." And while juicing together all of these fresh summer favorites can be equally delicious, pregnant women and young kids should be cautious about consuming raw juices unless they are pasteurized.

Mix Up Your Routine Trips to the Gym

The summer offers so many opportunities to vary your everyday gym workouts with swimming, hiking, biking and more! As mentioned by, changing up your workouts not only gives you the benefit of breaking out of your gym routine, but also creates opportunities to get your kids moving, and also to bond as a family!

And as great as outdoor activities are, it is equally important for mamas to keep themselves and their kids hydrated in the face of summer heat! For mamas-to-be, staying hydrated is especially important as it can prevent cramps, edema and headaches. According to, staying well-hydrated can also help stave off morning sickness, heartburn and UTIs.

Love Yourself!

This summer, embrace your body and, as Justin Bieber said it best, "you should go and love yourself!" Don’t let bathing-suit worries keep you from enjoying beach and family time this summer!  If you need some extra reminders for how summer-ready you are, check out what some of the “Raging Feminists” of have to say about bikini bods!

                                               Enough said.

                                               Enough said.







Undivided Doula: An Interview with Certified Doula, Lee Mcclenon

What made you decide to become a doula?

L: This is always a tough question for me, surprisingly. I heard about doulas when I was in college and I went to an all women’s college, so it was very feminist. I was intrigued about the birth process for a while. When I was little I wanted to be a doctor and I think medicine and bodies are really interesting. When a friend told me about doulas, it was just an awakening moment. I realized that the story that I had been told about birth didn’t have to be so rigid. I learned that women didn’t have to give birth on their back or in the hospital. I had never heard of midwives before. I didn’t know they existed in the current age. 

C: So you found that becoming a doula was an interesting pathway into this less rigid idea of birth?

L: Right, it really fit into my mindset of empowering women and helping people to make the best choices for themselves. 

What surprised you most about becoming a doula—maybe something you learned or something about the community you became a part of?

L: There is such a breath of doula work. When people hear that I am a doula, they often ask if I’m a midwife or if I’m really into natural births, but there is a lot of diversity within the doula community. There are so many skills. Some people are really trained in natural birth or in acupuncture…

Something that truly surprised me is that doula training is very much about birth, but being a doula is so much more than that. My training was about how to support someone through labor and delivery, but being a doula is really about getting to be a part of this really intimate moment in someone’s life. There’s a lot going on—birth doesn't happen in a vacuum. People still have relationships, and family members, and employment and this is a moment of transition.

I think that being a doula is not just about labor and delivery and having a baby, but being there for someone in this transformative moment in their life. I think that’s something that’s not as touched on training, but there is so much more that goes into being an effective doula—counseling skills, being a great listener, and really just being there for someone. 

C: Something else that you touched on that I would like you to elaborate on are the differences between a birthing doula and a postpartum doula.

L:  So, I’m actually a trained birthing doula, postpartum doula, and actually an abortion doula too. 

C: I actually didn’t even know that abortion doulas existed.

L: There’s a movement of doulas now calling themselves, “full spectrum doulas.” They’re there for people through the whole spectrum of reproduction—whether that means you got pregnant and didn’t intend and don’t feel prepared to have a baby right now or are really welcoming a kid into your life. 

C: That’s so interesting. I think it really brings home your earlier point about the emotional role that doulas can play—that abortion doesn’t have to take place in emotional isolation if you don’t have a built in support system.

L: Yes, many clinics also don't allow partners in the room during abortions. There’s actually a clinic in Cherry Hill that started a doula program, so that there could be someone in the room that wasn’t a doctor and could support women—hold their hand, remind them to breath, even just make small talk. 

I think what you were saying about partners being involved is really important. I see my role as a doula as not taking the place of a partner who knows this person so well, but bringing the breath of knowledge that I have from experiencing other births and make suggestions. I can encourage partners to rub her back in a certain way to deal with pain or coach them in counting breaths. Essentially, helping the partner to help her. 

So a postpartum doula is different from a baby nurse. A postpartum doula is still primary focused on the woman who just gave birth and looking out for her experience. So that is doing baby care, changing diapers, and doing feedings, but it’s primarily, so that the mother can go take a shower, a walk, nap, or just take a break.

C: I know women who are obsessed with their postpartum doulas. They can really be rather life-changing.

L: They can be especially great for women who don’t have family that live nearby. We’re of a generation where a lot of women move away from their family and career-oriented women are jet-setting all over the county. Relying on a postpartum doula for some of the support that family may usually provide can be really beneficial. Postpartum doulas can make healthy meals or stay overnight, so that moms can get more sleep. Even if you’re breastfeeding, they’ll bring the baby to you, but still do the burping and changing, so you can get to sleep. 

C: I think that can be really invaluable. I feel that postpartum doulas fit into Mama Said’s stressing of the intrinsic link between maternal health and wellness and child health and wellness. Utilizing a doula supports the idea that focusing on the mom is a way of focusing on the child.

What would you like women to know about using a doula and/or the birthing process in general?

L: I’d like to break out of this connection that’s often made between doulas and natural birth. Doulas can still be really engaged with the birth process when an epidural is used. I encourage people who even know from the get go that they want to use an epidural to have a birthing doula. There are so many options in the birthing process and I think it’s not so much about what you choose, but about choosing something. It’s important to make an informed choice and choose what’s right for you. 

C: Do you typically meet with moms before delivery or do you have experience when you’re just meeting the mom on the spot?

L: Both. If I’m working with someone we usually meet twice beforehand. The first meeting is really a “get to know you.” I ask about their family, why they wanted to hire a doula, and their goals. The second meeting is more practice. We will role play different positions and sometimes if the person is particularly nervous about advocating for themselves in the medical setting, we will role play that.

I’ve also had situation when I didn’t know the people ahead of time. My most recent birth experience was like that. I was a back up doula. I had a little bit of context, but I had never met them before. It’s about being able to establish relationships quickly. 

Has your experience as a doula varied in different communities you work with, in different settings, or with different moms?

L: I’ve done doula work on my own with private clients, volunteer with a group called Philadelphia Alliance for Labor Support that offers free and low cost doulas services for those who can’t afford to pay full price. I’ve also worked with the Maternity Care Coalition and that doula program primarily serves women in North Philadelphia. 

My experience is with women all over the city and I’ve been to lots of different hospitals. 

It really boils down to the fact that every birth is different. I think that working with different populations reinforces the idea that birth doesn’t happen in a vacuum. My last client was 19, so she’s thinking about going back to school. We talked about her plans for going back to school and what her goals are for breastfeeding and her goals for school and how they would fit together. Other clients’ questions have mainly been about bonding with their baby and/or baby wearing and working through that. I really try to listen to people’s needs and work with the resources that they have. 

C: So many things come to mind as you were talking. One thing I was just thinking about is how one woman can have many children and therefore many different birth experiences. And I think that it’s great for people to know that you can have a birth experience with a doula at an affordable cost. 

L: Yes, a lot of doulas are willing to use sliding scales. I encourage people if they find a doula they like, to reach out to her and express both their interest and limitations. 

C: I also encourage women and moms to seek out a doula, lactation consultant, sleep consultant, etc. in the same way they would seek out any other type of health and wellness care. It’s not a one size fits all—your friend may love her doula and she may still not be the right fit for you. I want women to feel empowered in that process and I think what you have been touching on throughout this conversation is that women are the experts of their own lives and in the case of mothers, experts of their lives and their children’s lives. 

The last time we spoke, you talked a little bit about your experience with doula work in the queer community. You exposed me to new information in that community related to doula work and I’m wondering if you could share more about that. 

L: I really want to be a resource for the queer community, because I think that are birth stories are different from the “mainstream.” So, lesbian families, families where one partners is transgender, even postpartum doulas for gay men adopting children. LGBT families may not have extended family that they are close to and there is still an element of discrimination. We now have trans men giving birth and I know people are made uncomfortable by that. I really want to be there for people and I believe that everyone deserves a joyful and empowered birth experience. I think that people who want to have children should be allowed to have children. 

C: You’ve already mentioned some resources, but are there groups or organizations related to doula work if you identify as queer or LGBT? 

L: There is a listing of doulas that are trans friendly from all over Pennsylvania. It’s a list of doulas, midwives, and Obstetricians/Gynecologists, so all reproductive care for trans individuals. There are a few doulas locally from that list. 

Can you share some thoughts about motherhood and/or working with mothers?

L: I’m not a mom.

C: That makes two of us. I love people working with moms who aren’t moms. Unfortunately, so much of the dialogue around motherhood has to come from mothers. What if we as a culture and society decided that motherhood is an experience that impacts virtually every aspect of our lives. How can we raise awareness and the be dedicated to improving the experience.

L: I think that not being a mom in some ways makes be a better doula, because I’m not comparing your experience with my own. Whatever you choose, I’m not thinking about my own birth experience or my own children. So, I think that it can make me less biased. 

Also, birth used to be much more of a communal experience and women our age would witnessed many births and the childcare experience. Family wasn’t so nuclear, so being a doula has given me a lot of exposure and understanding that I wouldn't otherwise have. 

L: My experience generally of motherhood is that moms can do anything! 

C: I think that working with mothers really is this experience of awe—in terms of capability and resiliency. Every mom is extraordinary in her own way. I think the expectation in the US in our time of what women should be able to be up and doing so soon after giving birth really draws into question how much we actually care about women and families. A lot of the work that Mama Said is doing in and out of the workplace is this awareness raising that motherhood needs to be celebrated and supported. 

L: Being a doula has made me furious that the US doesn’t have paid maternity leave AND paternity leave. It’s outrageous. I think that most people who don’t have kids don’t even know that’s true. 

C: Definitely. And if you get hired somewhere and you’re not quite at that stage of life, would you even think to ask questions about maternity leave etc. I think for many for many of us, especially young women it’s not something that comes up. I know that I’ve never asked about maternity leave policies in a job interview. There’s almost a fear of it. I think that women already feel that there is this stereotype of partnered women in their 30s having their resume thrown into the trash based on assumptions. 

L: That’s another thing that does come into play between the populations that I work with. There are moms who take eight weeks of paid maternity leave and really get to spend time with their baby and then there are moms who have to go back very quickly, even within a few days. You’re not supposed to lift anything heavier than your baby at first and then you have women on their feet all day in service jobs, because that’s what they need to do to support their family. 

C: I think that there are some really big questions we need to be asking in terms of pregnancy and motherhood and all of the pieces we’ve discussed. It is important to not only value mothers, but also the people that help them. We should value doulas and the various consultants and providers that can make the experience much more positive for women and their families. What’s good for mom is good for her children. 

L: That’s another thing—doulas fall into this class of what we call “care labor” that is not always valued. Some people get “sticker shock” from the cost of doula services, but it’s very important to pay a doula what she is worth. It is a feminist act. It is a way of supporting female owned business and care work which has been undervalued for generations. 

C: I was just reading about this as well. Why is it that as soon someone starts doing something in a “caring” field, it’s immediately devalued? Daycare, doulas, mothers, people caring for older adults, the list goes on…

L: Right. When you think about prepping for a baby, think about how much you spent prepping for your wedding. You likely spent a good amount of time and money to make that day special and in this experience you’re bringing a new life into your household. I think it’s a worthy investment to set yourself up for success. Having a doula means lower rates of c-sections, lower rates of postpartum depression, better bonding with your baby, and higher success rates with breastfeeding. It can be really beneficial.

C: Thank you so much for your time. I’ve learned a lot!

Lee’s doula business is called Undivided Doula and you can find her at!

Booby Trapped: An Interview with Board Certified Lactation Consultant, Adara Blake

"I think the most important thing for me, is that women should know that you can have a breastfeeding relationship without exclusively breastfeeding...I think people often think breastfeeding is this all or nothing proposition." 

C: What made you decide to become a lactation consultant?

A: Ever since I was really little, I was really interested in pregnancy and childbirth. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that I was there at the birthing center when my mom delivered my sister. I don’t really remember it, but I feel like that must have made some impression on me. I thought maybe I wanted to be a midwife or a doula. I did do a doula training, but ultimately decided to become a speech therapist. I learned that speech therapists do a lot of swallowing and feeding therapy and thought lactation consulting might be a cool way to marry my interests.

When I started to look at grad schools and decided to go to the University of North Carolina, I noticed that they had a lactation consulting certification which is one of only four or so in the country that are affiliated with universities. It’s actually really time consuming to get the certification on your own, so I was lucky that my grad program accommodated the certification.

C: What surprised you most about becoming a lactation consultant—maybe something you learned or something about the community you became a part of?

A: One thing that kind of shocked me is that there is no medical professional that specializes in breasts! That’s just kind of crazy to me! There is a specialist for virtually every part of the body except for the breasts—there is no breast doctor! There are oncologists who specialize in breast cancer, but other than that, it’s kind of this neglected part of the body. 

However, there is a lot of interesting research starting to happen around lactation now. I think it’s a really cool time to be a part of this movement. My cohort was such a varied group of women. I was a speech pathologist, we had a nurse, a medical anthropologist…

C: I don’t know much about medical anthropology! 

A: Yea —her research was on milk sharing. Really fascinating! I also just really like being a part of that immediate postpartum period. Unless you’ve had a family member have a baby, you don’t get to be a part of those first 24 hours. It’s really incredible to be a support person for those women. We don’t live communally anymore, so it’s awesome to be a part of that little “pod” for those first couple days. 

C: What would you like women to know about using a lactation consultant and breastfeeding in general? 

A: I think the most important thing for me, is that women should know that you can have a breastfeeding relationship without exclusively breastfeeding. I’m the first person to say that I want everyone to breastfeed their children, at the breast, 100% of the time. It is this really natural, beautiful thing. However, I’m also a speech pathologist and I work with really sick kids who can’t eat, so I see the two extremes. I think people often think breastfeeding is this all or nothing proposition. There are amazing benefits to exclusive breastfeeding, but there are women who breastfeed for 24 hours and there are women who breastfeed for 6 or 7 years…

C: And any little bit helps.

A: Any little bit you're doing something incredible for your baby. It’s a lot of work. Women need to find what works best for them and their baby within that spectrum. 

As far as utilizing a lactation consultant, some people put the baby on and they latch and it’s great, but for a lot of women it’s really difficult. I find that a lot of women are not as quick to seek out help and it is a medical issue!

C: I think it can feel like a “womanly failure.”

A: Right, women feel like it’s just something that should happen and if it doesn’t happen, something is wrong with you. There isn’t another biological process though where we would say, “Oh, it’s not working, it’s fine.” You would go to a doctor or a specialist. I think it’s really important to utilize lactation consultants as a resource. And it’s the same as finding a doctor or a dentist…

C: It’s not one size fits all.

A: It’s not one size fits all and you might need to go through a couple lactation consultants before you find someone that you really jive with. It’s too bad that one experience can turn someone off. There are so many different styles and backgrounds. Keep going until you find the right fit. A lot of women suffer through this process when they don’t need to. 

C: I think that a lactation consultant is different from a family member too. Of course, you have an agenda, but it’s not a personal one. Women may feel pressured by what a family member is saying to do and hiring a professional may free you of those expectations. 

A: Family supports are so important with breastfeeding, but it is a double edged sword. They come with their own biases and experiences that they’re acting on. Sometimes that’s really well intentioned, but it’s not always what you need. 

C: What would you say you personal teaching style is? Maybe you would use a different word than teaching. Related to that, what can we expect from your workshop?

A: That’s a good question. I have always learned best from teachers who were really interactive and were interested in having more of a conversation than the traditional didactic approach of
“I’m teaching and you’re listening.” As much as I think that I do have knowledge to offer, I am just beginning my career and have a lot to learn too. I would like it to be an exchange. Perhaps, what I think are the most important topics or hot button issues are not the ones the people around me are thinking about. I want to use the audience to adapt my teaching. Hopefully, the workshop will be interactive and a little funny and maybe go in a direction that I wasn’t expecting when we started. 

C: Can you share some thoughts in general about motherhood or working with mothers?

A: I think that particularly as a lactation consultant and a speech pathologist who works with feeding and swallowing, I’ve come to realize the importance of feeding your child. It’s such a primal thing and for parents food=love. They want to feed their baby and know that their baby is happy and nourished and satisfied. When there is a problem with feeding it’s really personal—whether it’s bottle feeding or breastfeeding. I really enjoy being able to satisfy that basic need of being able to provide for your child. Anything that I can do to ease that process when it’s not going well is a really nice feeling. 

There is nothing like being there for the first time when a mom feeds her premature infant…when it’s been 10 weeks that the baby has been in the world and unable to feed by mouth and then I get to be there when the mom is feeding them for the first time…that’s incredible. It’s cool to be able to provide the support for that basic need that we all have. 

C: Anything else that you would like to share?

A: I think information is really important. We’re all in this information age and hungry for take-aways, but breastfeeding is one of those things that you don’t know what it will be like until it happens to you. I think building these resources for yourself is helpful when something comes up.

C: But they’re really more of a toolbox than a manual. 

A: Right. Know that stuff is going to happen, but you have resources available to you. It will be what it’s going to be though.

C: In all of the work that I do, I talk a lot about embracing “the messiness of motherhood.”

A: Messy is a good word.

C: Yea, messy often has a negative connotation, but there is a release of control that comes with motherhood. You can have the best plan in the world and children can change everything. Breastfeeding can be one of the first times that things don’t go according to the plan. There are so many schools of thought out there and like you said, it’s empowering to have the resources and make decisions that are best for you. 

A: Yes, to tailor make it for yourself.